Q & A



What did Rav Sha’ul mean when he said that we are “no longer under the Law”?


I offer to you as our understanding and position on this question, the following that has been previously taught by Dr. James Trimm (Society for the Advancement of Nazarene Judaism); In his booklet titled “Freedom in Torah”, and Ch. 3 “Paul Misunderstood”, Beginning on page 13 with, “Works of the Torah” and “Under the Torah”, Dr. Trimm writes :


Much of the confusion about Paul’s teachings on the Torah involves two scripture phrases which appear in the New Testament only in Paul’s writings (in Rom. Gal. & 1Cor.). These two phrases are “works of the Torah” and “under the Torah”, each of which appears 10 times in the Scriptures.

The first of these phrases, “works of the Torah”, is best understood through its usage in Gal 2:16. Here Paul writes:

Knowing that a man is not justified by WORKS OF THE Torah BUT BY FAITH IN Yeshua the Messiah, even we have believed in Messiah Yeshua, that we might be justified by faith in Messiah and not by the WORKS OF THE TORAH; for by the WORKS OF THE TORAH no flesh shall be justified.

Paul uses this phrase to describe a false method of justification which is diametrically opposed to “faith in the Messiah”. To Paul “works of the Torah” is not an obsolete Old Testament system, but a heresy that has never been true.

The term “works of the Torah” has shown up as a technical theological term used in a document in the Dead Sea Scrolls called MMT which says:

Now we have written to you some of the WORKS OF THE TORAH,   those which we determined would be beneficial for you…And it will be reckoned to you as righteousness, in that you have done what is right and good before Him… (4Q394-399) Section C lines 26b-31)

The second of these phrases is “under the Torah”. This phrase may best be understood from its usage in Rom. 6:14, “For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not UNDER THE TORAH but under grace.” Paul, therefore, sees “under grace” and “under the Torah’ as diametrically opposed, one cannot be both. The truth is that since we have always been under grace (see Gen. 6:8; Ex 33:12,17; Judges 6:17f; Jer. 31:2) we have never been “under the Torah”. This is because the Torah was created for man, man was not created for the Torah (see Mk. 2:27). “Under the Torah” then, is not an obsolete Old Testament system, but a false teaching which was never true.

There can be n doubt that Paul sees “works of the Torah” and “under the Torah” as categorically bad, yet Paul calls the Torah itself “holy, just and good” (Rom 7:12), certainly Paul does not use these phrases to refer to the Torah itself.


Therefore since we do not believe in salvation through ‘works of the Torah’ as did the P’rushim of Y’shua’s day and the Rabbinicals of our day, nor do we believe that we have ever been ‘under the Torah’ (which has always been a false teaching) but voluntarily obey it and take it on as ‘His yoke’, out of our love for Him who first loved us; Beit Echad stands in total agreement with this teaching of Dr. Trimm, and thus that of Rav Sha’ul in which we find no conflict of thought in what our Mashiyach has already told us in Jn. 14;15 “If you love me, keep my commandments”.

Rav Sha’ul was a devoted follower of his Adon Y’shua, who was and is El in the flesh that presented Himself to us as a Torah observant Jew and Mashiyach ben Yoseph. He would never teach against Y’shua or His Torah, or change anything that Y’shua said or did.


1 He who dwells in the secret place of the Most High, Who abides under the shadow of the Almighty,
2 He is saying of יהוה, “My refuge and my stronghold, My Elohim, in whom I trust!” [Ps 9:9];
3 For He delivers you from the snare of a trapper, From the destructive pestilence. Ps 124:7; [Job 5:19];
4 He covers you with His feathers, And under His wings you take refuge; His truth is a shield and armour. Ps 57:1; [Matt 23:37]; [Luke 13:34];
5 You are not afraid of the dread by night, Of the arrow that flies by day, Job 5:19-20; Prov 3:25; Song 3:8; [Prov 3:24];
6 Of the pestilence that walks in darkness, Of destruction that ravages at midday.
7 A thousand fall at your side, And ten thousand at your right hand; But it does not come near you.
8 Only with your eyes you look on, And see the reward of the wrong ones. [Prov 29:16];
9 Because you have made יהוה – My refuge, the Most High – your dwelling place,
10 No evil befalls you, And a plague does not come near your tent;
11 For He commands His messengers concerning you, To guard you in all your ways. Ps 34:7; Matt 4:6; Luke 4:10; [Prov 3:23]; [Prov 4:12];
12 They bear you up in their hands, Lest you dash your foot against a stone. Luke 4:11;
13 You tread upon lion and cobra, Young lion and serpent you trample under foot. Job 5:22-23;
14 “Because he cleaves to Me in love, Therefore I deliver him; I set him on high, Because he has known My Name.
15 “When he calls on Me, I answer him; I am with him in distress; I deliver him and esteem him. [Zech 13:9];
16 “With long life I satisfy him, And show him My deliverance.”
Tehillim (Ps.) 91 TS2009 (emphasis mine)



The Natsarene of the First Century C.E., as described in Acts 24:5 who were also called “The Way”; were the original followers of Y’shua HaMashiyach. They are sometimes mistakenly referred to as “Early Christians”, which they were not. They survived up into the 3rd-4th century C.E. despite all the efforts of both Christianity and Judaism to silence them and are being re-created today in a small but growing minority within a minority of truth seakers who are called to Torah and our Jewish Mashiyach Y’shua. May he come again soon and in our day! Amen?



Taken from our Torah Parashat for today, Vayigash (and he drew near), Bereshis 44:18-47:27

1 And Yosĕph was unable to restrain himself before all those who stood by him, and he called out, “Have everyone go out from me!” So no one stood with him while Yosĕph made himself known to his brothers. 2 And he wept aloud, and the Mitsrites and the house of Pharaoh heard it. [Gen 43:30]; 3 And Yosĕph said to his brothers, “I am Yosĕph, is my father still alive?” But his brothers were unable to answer him, for they trembled before him.
4 Then Yosĕph said to his brothers, “Please come near to me.” And when they came near, he said, “I am Yosĕph your brother, whom you sold into Mitsrayim. Gen 37:28; Ps 105:17; Acts 7:9; Acts 7:13; 5 “And now, do not be grieved nor displeased with yourselves because you sold me here, for Elohim sent me before you to preserve life. Gen 50:19-21; [Gen 50:19]; [Ps 105:17]; 6 “For two years now the scarcity of food has been in the land, and there are still five years in which there is neither ploughing nor harvesting. [Gen 41:54];
7 “And Elohim sent me before you to preserve for you a remnant in the earth, and to give life to you by a great escape. 8 “So then, you did not send me here, but Elohim…” Bereshis 45:1-8 TS 2009

Just as the Kingdom of Yisra’el is seen through the tribes of Yahudah and Yoseph (Ephraim), so HaMashiyach may be seen as ben Yoseph, the suffering servant, and Mashiyach ben David, the conquering King that unites and delivers kol Yisra’el from all her enemies roundabout.

When He returns with His host, in clouds of glory as our Great Deliverer and Kinsman Redeemer, He will then be known to us as Mashiyach ben David. He will then fulfill the type foreshadowed by Yoseph, who stood before his brothers and identified himself to them as the one they had once so mercilessly hated and rejected. They, in utter amazement and the full realization of all the events that had brought them to this point, including their individual and corporate sin; with unspeakable joy were welcomed into his open arms. This beautiful scene will be repeated in the near future when all twelve are welcomed back as one to be echad with Him. So it is with great anticipation that we look forward to the time to come that is often referred to as “in that day”:
10 And in that day there shall be a Root of Yishai, standing as a banner to the people. Unto Him the nations shall seek, and His rest shall be esteem. [Rom 15:12]; [Rev 5:5]; [Rev 22:16]; 11 And it shall be in that day that יהוה sets His hand again a second time to recover the remnant of His people who are left, from Ashshur and from Mitsrayim, from Pathros and from Kush, from Ěylam and from Shin‛ar, from Ḥamath and from the islands of the sea. 12 And He shall raise a banner for the nations, and gather the outcasts of Yisra’ĕl, and assemble the dispersed of Yehuḏah from the four corners of the earth. Yeshayah (Is.) 11:10:12 TS 2009
HalleluYah to Him who is our banner, who gathers “…the outcasts of Yisra’el, and assembles the dispersed of Yehudah from the four corners of the earth”. Truly that will be a day greater than the day of our deliverance from Mitsrayim! I pray that I, along with each of you, will be there for this awesome and amazing reunion to take place in His Righteous Arms of mercy and forgiveness! HalleluYah!
Shabbat Shalom Kol Yisra’el!


There is much to celebrate this Shabbat! As we enter in to His Rest on this Holy Day, we also welcome the beginning of a new month (the 10th Biblical Month which began this Erev Shabbat at sundown), and for those who chose to observe the Civil Holiday of Chanuka, we lit the 6th candle prior to sundown as we remember how  יהוה (B’H) delivered us from the oppression of our enemies. So many blessings! Let Yisra’el make a joyful noise!

I’m reminded at this time of the joy we will all share at the realization of this prophecy, which is already past it’s beginning stage:

…‘Thus said the Master יהוה, “See, I am taking the stick of Yosĕph, which is in the hand of Ephrayim, and the tribes of Yisra’ĕl, his companions. And I shall give them unto him, with the stick of Yehuah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in My hand.” ’ “And the sticks on which you write shall be in your hand before their eyes. “And speak to them, ‘Thus said the Master יהוה, “See, I am taking the children of Yisra’ĕl from among the nations, wherever they have gone, and shall gather them from all around, and I shall bring them into their land.                Yehezqel 37:19-21 TS2009

My family, what a day is coming when He shall gather us all, and bring us into ‘our’ land! Have no doubt, what He says, He does! He asks nothing impossible of us in return if we but trust and obey. Remember how He has delivered you in the past, and how when things seemed to be at their worst with no hope, it was then that He rushed in to protect, provide, heal, strengthen, and encourage!

So go forward in trusting obedience Yisra’el, confident that the One who delivered our Nation at the Yom Suf, is the one that covers you in the palm of His Glorius Hand today. How can we not leap for joy at the assurance of His presence among us? Hoshana to Melech haMelechim today, and forever!

Shabbat Shalom!

A Rebuttal To “Jesus, Yeshua or Yahshua? as presented by Tuvia Pollack in ‘Kahila News Israel’ 11/10/19

Amen and Shabbat Shalom! Hebrew is the Lashon Kadosh (holy tongue) so we might as well learn it now; not only to prepare for His Kingdom of Righteousness to come, but to better understand the D’var HaYHWH (B’H) now.

Mr. Pollack, I must take issue with you on a few things that you have written. Yehoshua is the Hebrew Name of our Messiah, which in His day was spoken in the lingua franca of the common people of Yisra’el as Yeshua/Y’shua, which was Aramaic, a sister language of Hebrew.

At this point in the History of Yisra’el, there existed amongst those who observed Torah, general hatred of anything coming from the Seleucid Empire, including their writings, language, and other Jews who had adopted their ‘Hellenistic’ lifestyle and beliefs. It seems as if Antiochus IV Epiphanes had done some very evil things to those who would not, and did not, ‘bend the knee’ and convert to his pagan ideas of worship and Deity.

To stand for the El of Yisra’el, His Torah, and the faith of the Patriarchs as did Judah Ben Maccabee and his followers in their own land meant at best, a quick but certain death at the hands of the Seleucids or the Hellenists. These events and the reciprocal animosity and resentment of all things Seleucidian can be tied to the rejection of The Septuagint as produced by the Hellenists of Alexandria some years earlier, by those of the Torah Observant in Judea, who accepted the Pentateuch only.

Fast forward just a few years later to the time of the Promised One, HaMashiyach Y’shua; and you will find His Talmidim (all Torah observant Jews themselves), as members of the hated Torah Observant Jewish Sect called HaNatsarene (Acts 24:5) following their Rabbi along the dusty trails of Judea, as He Himself taught them and others concerning ‘The Way’ of Salvation, straight from the Tanakh.

These were not ‘Christians’, and not even ‘early Christians’ as some would claim. They were first called this by the Gentiles at Antioch but never called themselves that. HaNatsarene were hated and viciously persecuted by both the corrupted Jewish Sect called P’rushim because of their faith in Y’shua as Elohim, and the new religion, for their faithful observance of Torah and many Jewish Traditions even though they followed Y’shua as Mashiyach. This, of course, included the 7th day Biblical Sabbath which was specifically outlawed by the ‘greatest’ Christen in History, and founder of that faith, Constantine; who called those of the Natsarene ‘Judaizing Christians’ for their continued observance of it.

Christianity had sprung up from the Jewish Hellenists and other pagans as the false religion that Sha’ul had warned about.

The faith which the Natsarene proclaimed of Messiah and Torah existed upon the map of history parallel to Judaism and Christianity up into the fourth century C.E. when they seemed to disappear off the face of the earth. There are some reports of them appearing sometime during the middle ages but then vanishing again. Nevertheless, there are many today attempting to restore that pure Torah Observant faith filled with the heart of Mashiyach but devoid of the teachings of man.

It is that faith of HaNatsarene that proclaims the antinomian, Westernized, Greco, Romanish one called J-sus a pagan imposter who falsely teaches that he has done away with obedience to the perfect Torah of liberty from sin and confusion; teaching pagan ‘holidays’ in lieu of the Holy Mo’edim (Appointed Times/Feasts of YHWH [B’H]). It is that faith of HaNatsarene that teaches Y’shua as the perfect living embodiment of Torah, and the Kinsman Redeemer for all who would follow him in loving obedience to the Restoration of The Yisra’el of YHWH (B’H)!


I’m troubled by many of the comments that I’m seeing which caution against being misled by false prophets, etc. then show a picture of Pharisitical (Rabbinical) Jews! This is misleading in itself, and is a deception rampant in Christian based anti-semitism that considers any form of obedience as ‘legalism’. I am neither an Orthodox Jew or Christian in my belief as a Natsarene Jew, but this is how I see those two groups.

Orthodox Jews do not hide their teachings and traditions, claiming they have been given the power through their Rabbis to re-interpret, add to, or change the Torah as needed. This, and the fact that I would have to surrender my belief in Y’shua as El in the flesh, and our promised Mashiyach (Messiah); is one of several reasons I am not one of them today.

Christians vehemently deny this exists in their denominations when, in fact, they have been steeped in pagan tradition (SUNday, Easter, Xmas, etc.) and the teachings of men (the early ‘church fathers’, Luther, Calvin, and many other modern day variants) since their early beginnings under Constantine.

So when speaking of ‘false prophets’, and those who follow the teaching and traditions of men; let’s let the Bible decide who they are, shall we? And what does the Bible have to say concerning this?

To the Torah and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isa 8:20

The Hebrew word that lay behind the English ‘law’, is ‘Torah’. The Torah consists of the first five books of the Tanakh (Old Testament) and even though it is not “The Law” in and of itself, it contains The Law and all 613 Commandments (including The Ten) of it. Torah does not mean ‘Law’; it means ‘teaching, or, instruction’.

Therefore my Christian brothers, if anyone speaks to you but they do not ‘speak according to this word’ (The Word of the Torah and His Testimony), it is because there is ‘no light in them’! Do not follow what they have to say, he, she, or they are, ‘FALSE PROPHETS.’

If they tell you the “Law” is ‘dead’, ‘nailed to the cross’, or that there isn’t any need to keep it because it’s been fulfilled; or they tell you that “we don’t do such and such today because we are now living ‘under grace’.” be careful, be cautious! Why? Because whoever ‘they’ are can be identified as a false Prophet or Prophets who are teaching the commandments of men over the Mitzvot (Commandments) of El (G-d) as found in His Torah. Additionally, His Torah is exactly as He is, eternal in every way.

Strive to walk according to His Word (Torah), and not what someone else tells you unless they are following His Torah. How will you know if they are? You, my friend, just as I and each one of us must study so as not to be deceived or mislead!

He has made you in His image. He has blessed you with a mind and the ability to think and reason for yourself so open your Bible and ‘STUDY TO SHOW YOURSELF APPROVED’.


Palm fronds for Sukkot

Shabbat, October 19, 2019

Shabbat Shalom Mishpochah! Today, October 19, 2019, as you know is day 6 of Chag HaSukkot (Feast of Tabernacles) and our Torah reading is taken from Shemoth (Ex) 33:12-34:26; as well as Num. 29:26-31. Our reference for this Midrash is taken from Shemoth 34:1, as it is here we are given another brief insight into the character, and nature of HaKadosh Baruch Hu (The Holy One, Blessed be He), as relates to Moshe, and to us as ‘B’ney Yisra’el’ (The Children of Yisra’el).


And יהוה said to Mosheh, “Cut two tablets of stone like the first ones, and I shall write on these tablets the Words that were on the first tablets which you broke.


Remembering the reason the first set of tablets were destroyed (the incident of the golden calf), and the implications to us of the ‘broken Covenant’; we see Moshe pleading with Elohim on behalf of Kol Yisra’el as a type of our ‘Kohen Gadol’ (High Priest) Y’shua, who ministers untiringly before YHWH Tsva’ot 24/7 on the behalf of those who ‘love Him and keep His Commandments’ (Jn. 14:15).

The product of this intercessory action, was and is to allow Elohim to view His Chosen People through the purity of Him who stands for us by offering His perfect נֶפֶש ‘nephesh’ (life/soul, as found in His blood), for the imperfection of all those who choose daily to walk in His path of self-sacrificial obedience. However, we must remember that this walk of obedience must be as a product of our love for Him and His ‘unspeakable gift’. Anything less will be viewed as an unacceptable sacrifice that voids our part of His Covenant with us (thus making the entire Covenant void)! By offering ourselves to Him as the acceptable ‘daily sacrifice’, we reaffirm our part of the second set of Mitzvot (Commandments) of the Covenant. 

With all of this in mind, we read in our text that יהוה (B’H) commanded Moshe to cut “…two tablets of stone like the first ones” so that He could then “…write on these tablets the words that were on the first tablets WHICH YOU BROKE.” (my emphasis). Notice the chastisement of Moshe, hence Kol Yisra’el, that it was they, and not He, that caused the first set to be broken.

But why did יהוה (B’H) command him (Moshe) to cut two tablets out of stone like the first ones, when it would have been much easier for Elohim to both cut them out and write on them, all at once; or just to have spoken them into existence? Surely He did not require the effort of man to produce the two tablets of stone! Something else was going on here, something that speaks volumes as it teaches of His character and nature as relates to man.

The lesson for us here today, this Shabbat and 6th day of Chag HaSukkot through our reading of this text, is not only that יהוה (B’H) is patient and longsuffering with His chosen people, but that He requires our active participation in His Covenant of chesed (unmerited favor/mercy) and yeshua (salvation) for it to work to His honor and glory. He wants and expects our willing love for Him (He has given us the right and ability to chose who we will follow) to produce an active, Torah observant life that will testify of that love, justice, and mercy to all through the product (fruit) of our lives here on this earth.

May you be blessed in your Shabbat rest within the walls of your Sukkah today, as you provide the tablets of your heart for the writing of His Covenant.

Sukkot at The Wall


Hallelu Yah! He who sits enthroned in the heavens is our Rock and our Salvation. Adon (Master) we choose life this Shabbat as we seek you and your way in the Word of your Torah! Let us go to the Mikvah in the eye of the mind as we seek your righteousness, so that we may arise with hands raised high in praise and thankfulness that we are now cleansed in the Mayim Chayim (Living Water) and are, ‘Born Again’. Abide with those who are in far away places this night, and comfort them with your Ruach. Heal those who have called upon your all-powerful name, HaShem YHWH (B’H) for deliverance from pain, sorrow, and loneliness and renew them with wings as Eagles. You are the Light that sustains us this Shabbat and for all time. We offer our praises to you in our speech, thought, and song as we rest from our work, so that we may be refreshed and elevated with you in the Shabbat of The New Y’rushalayim. Actively searching, and seeking your Shalom that passes all understanding, we ask that you Prepare us Abba, for your soon return. Cause us to love one another, as you Sar Shalom (Prince of Peace), love each of us! Glory, Praise, and Honor be to HaMelech Malchei HaMlachim (The King who is above all kings)! Shouting “Hallelu Yah!” we fall before you, arms outstretched, face and palms to the ground, and then you lift us to stand before your Eternal Majesty, and finally, finally, we gaze upon your beautiful face as your Host sings a new song of victory and deliverance!

Sing Hallelu Yah!
Worship The King!
Shabbat Shalom!



I am better educated now on clean and unclean meats, now…I was told that only portions of a cow could be eaten. What parts are clean and does that apply to other animals?


Shalom. It is good that you have chosen to study and learn concerning the Biblical dietary laws; which are a key part of becoming Holy, even as He is Holy (Lv. 11:44-47).

However, I believe you may be confusing what is called the Orthodox Rabbinical Laws of Kashrut (Kosher), with the simple Biblical Laws of Clean and Unclean. Not that there is anything wrong with applying some of the requirements of kosher living to your diet, if for no other reason than your personal health.

Just remember that in Orthodox Rabbinical Judaism, the laws of Kashrut are man-made additions too, and outside those of the written Torah. Being ‘Kosher’ according to Rabbinical Law is a complete lifestyle that goes far beyond the requirements of ‘clean’ and ‘unclean’ foods as listed there.

In the interest of not wanting to ‘through the baby out with the bathwater,’ we believe that there are certain requirements of eating Kosher that should be applied to the diet of the individual believer, simply for the reasons of eating as healthy as possible to maintain ‘the body temple’. Yes, you can go vegetarian or vegan. There is Biblical evidence to suggest Daniel and his companions were vegetarians, but there is still no evidence of a requirement by Elohim for His children to do so.

Eating Kosher can be a relatively simple thing. We do so in our home by ensuring that all processed foods have received the ‘stamp’ or ‘seal’ of one of the many Koshering Authorities existing today, such as the ‘Orthodox Union’. They are one of the largest and oldest of these organizations, and their seal is identified simply by the letter ‘O’ with the letter ‘U’ contained inside. But as I say, there are many such authorities, and Believers would be well served by ensuring that your processed foods have received the seal of any one of them.

As a matter of fact, you might be surprised at the amount and types of foods you already have in your home that are approved as being ‘Kosher’! Finding fresh meat considered Kosher can be a bit more challenging, all depending on where you live. Making sure that your food is Kosher, will add another, stricter set of guidelines applied to those already issued by the USDA.

Considering the level of genetic engineering being applied to livestock and most all foods today (thus increasing production and profitability), adding another, stricter level of inspection and acceptance beyond meeting the minimal Biblical standards of ‘Clean/Unclean’, becomes a necessity for the city-dwelling health conscious believer, unable to produce their own food.

‘Do not eat it raw, nor boiled at all with water, but roasted in fire, its head with its legs and its inward parts‘ Ex 12:9 TS2009

As to what parts of a ‘clean’ animal are acceptable to eat; consider the first Pesach meal in which ALL of the animal was to be consumed. Surely that Mitzvah (Commandment) would not have been given to Moshe for all Yisra’el to follow if it had not been acceptable to Elohim. Our modern social mores and the Western/Greco/Romanish culture we live in today dictate certain sensibilities to us that would cause us concern, if not outright disgust, at eating certain parts of any living thing, even though the animal may be called ‘clean.’ However, that of itself does not make any particular part of the animal ‘unclean’.

There are many good books out there that will explain the process and benefits of a Kosher diet, even going into the types of packaging allowed to keep Kosher foods, well, Kosher. Many different types of packaging are in use today, with some using the enzymes of unclean animals in their manufacturing. This fact alone would cause what would be considered a Biblically clean food, through contact with it, to be ‘unclean.’ One such book simply titled “Is It Kosher?”, can be found at Amazon, as well as at other booksellers.

The thing for us as Natsarene to remember is that the laws of Clean and Unclean foods as stated by Torah, are the standard by which we are to follow. Going a step further and ensuring that these foods have been processed, prepared, and packaged under the guidelines of Orthodox Rabbinical Authorities, gives us the added assurance that our clean foods remain as free from contamination by man as possible.


P.S. The picture at the top of this article is of my sister, and her bottle fed ‘bummer’ lamb on our ranch in Western Oregon (circa 1966).


Recently, I’ve seen the same questions concerning the dietary laws of clean and unclean as outlined in Wayyiqra (Lv) 11:1-47; Debarim (Dt) 14:3-21; and others. That question concerns the waterfowl, duck or geese. It seems that the Torah does not specifically list them one way or the other, even though the swan is clearly named as being unclean, yet Rabbinical Judaism has no problem listing them with other clean fowl. So why then shouldn’t I include duck or goose in my diet? Well, if you accept the Takanot and Maasim of the Rabbi’s cart blanch as taught within the Talmud, then this will be a non-issue for you; as they have already determined that their teaching takes precedence over Torah Shebikhtav (The Written Torah).

However if we would Just follow along with the pattern of clean and unclean as seen in our Biblical references, the answer to our question becomes obvious regardless of the animal being specifically named or not. 

Notice what makes individual animals unclean, and you will see it is the regular diet of the beast. Most all are scavengers and will eat just about anything and everything dead, (partially or fully), or putrid, and what would typically be considered as the waste of other living creatures. If you are familiar with the normal diet of these waterfowl, common sense would then dictate that duck or goose would fall into that category as they are typically bottom feeders as other unclean waterfowl that are listed.

Now inevitably the question will come up, “what if I raised the animals myself while ensuring that their diet consisted of only ‘clean’ foods, i.e.; fruits, nuts, grains, and vegetables?” Well my friend, if that’s what makes an animal Biblically clean, we should be able to apply the same logic to all animals originally listed as ‘unclean’ as long as we make sure they have a clean diet before being eaten by us. That would make the pig, the camel, catfish, shellfish, etc., including all birds of prey; acceptable as ‘clean’ for our consumption and we could do away with that part of Torah!

Whoa, just a minute! I didn’t mean to get that ridicules but I do want you to understand where that type of reasoning comes from and where it goes to.

“There is a way which seems right to a man, But its end is the way of death”    Mishle (Proverbs) 14:12 TS2009

However, this makes no difference to those who are determined to call black and white gray; so that they can do what they want to do.

Why the debate over such things when the Torah is very clear over what makes an animal unclean, and the reason for our not partaking of it? If you think there is the slightest possibility that Elohim does not want you to consume a bottom feeder, why pursue the question any further? Surely it is not in the interest of walking in Holiness with YHWH (B’H), is it?

So don’t be ‘ducked’ or ‘goosed’! Use the mind YHWH has blessed you with and do not fight against the meaning of His Torah, or spend your time looking for loopholes in it. There are none!